Goodbye "Ole Green Tip"...

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  1. SHOOTER13

    SHOOTER13 RETIRED MODERATOR Lifetime Supporting

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    Another executive action by Obama and Holder...:mad:

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150213/batfe-to-ban-common-ar-15-ammo

    http://www.atf.gov/sites/default/fi..._primarily_intended_for_sporting_purposes.pdf


    BATFE previously declared M855 to be “armor piercing ammunition,” but granted it an exemption as a projectile “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes.”

    Now, however, BATFE says that it will henceforth grant the “sporting purposes” exception to only two categories of projectiles:

    Category I: .22 Caliber Projectiles

    A .22 caliber projectile that otherwise would be classified as armor piercing ammunition under 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(B) will be considered to be “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes” under section 921(a)(17)(C) if the projectile weighs 40 grains or less AND is loaded into a rimfire cartridge.

    Category II: All Other Caliber Projectiles

    Except as provided in Category I (.22 caliber rimfire), projectiles that otherwise would be classified as armor piercing ammunition will be presumed to be “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes” under section 921(a)(17)(C) if the projectile is loaded into a cartridge for which the only handgun that is readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade is a single shot handgun. ATF nevertheless retains the discretion to deny any application for a “sporting purposes” exemption if substantial evidence exists that the ammunition is not primarily intended for such purposes.

    BATFE is accepting comments until March 16, 2015 on this indefensible attempt to disrupt ammunition for the most popular rifle in America.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56×45mm_NATO

    Well...looks like I'm in violation...big time !! :rolleyes:
     
  2. straightshooter

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    Shall not infringe...........what a lost constitutional right that is. Any law or mandate that is against the constitutional rights is supposed to be nullified and void per the Constitution. In fact those that try to enforce such tripe are guilty of treason and are to be imprisoned for the crime. Foreign and domestic usurpers of the law are to be punished for treason against the people. Seems our biggest threat to our freedoms and rights are from within.
    IMO ISIS or whatever new name given it is less a threat than from within by our own politicians. Letting Sharia Law have any place in America is IMO treason against America.
     

  3. SHOOTER13

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    Amen brother...!!
     
  4. SHOOTER13

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    On a lighter note...

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    ATF Federal Firearm Regulations Reference Guide 2014... ( 237 page PDF )

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    https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/fi...ide_3-7-15.pdf

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    Page 190 ( if you want to see it in Black & White )...


    In addition, the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 added to the definition of armor piercing ammunition the following:

    "... a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile."

    Exemptions: The following articles are exempted from the definition of armor piercing ammunition:

    5.56 mm (.233) SS 109 and M855 Ammunition, identified by a green coating on the projectile tip.

    U.S. .30-06 M2AP, identified by a black coating on the projectile tip. ​
     
  8. SHOOTER13

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    BREAKING: ATF Will Not Ban Popular M855 AR-15 Ammunition

    In a short statement issued March 10, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives backed away from its proposed ban on the sale and manufacture of the popular M855 round used primarily in AR-15 rifles.

    The ATF proposed a new method for determining which so-called "armor-piercing" ammunition that could be fired from a pistol should be restricted, and said it had received more than 80,000 comments that were "critical of the framework."

    "Although ATF endeavored to create a proposal that reflected a good faith interpretation of the law and balanced the interests of law enforcement, industry, and sportsmen, the vast majority of the comments received to date are critical of the framework, and include issues that deserve further study," the ATF said in a statement. "Accordingly, ATF will not at this time seek to issue a final framework."

    The original proposal which was released last month prompted a strong reaction from the shooting public, with most seeing the move as a way for the Obama Administration to regulate gun ownership through executive action after being stymied by Congress. Major news networks covered the story and the National Rifle Association lobbied hard to keep the regulation at bay.

    The ATF argues that since the M855 round incorporates some steel in its construction and can be fired from an AR-style pistol, it is in violation of the 1986 Law Enforcement Officer Protection Act which bans pistol rounds that can penetrate soft body armor worn by police. Gun owners argued that all rifle ammunition is technically armor-piercing due to its velocity, and that if the ATF could ban M855, it could eventually ban all rifle ammunition.

    The White House sided with the ATF, saying the M855 ban was a "common sense" solution to an emerging threat to law enforcement, but there has so far been no documented case where a police officer was threatened by M855 rounds fired from an AR pistol.

    And after a major backlash in Congress, including a letter to the ATF signed by more than 250 lawmakers and a bill introduced in the House to bar the ATF from any future ammo bans, the gun regulating agency relented. "ATF will process the comments received, further evaluate the issues raised therein, and provide additional open and transparent process (for example, through additional proposals and opportunities for comment) before proceeding with any framework," the ATF said.

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    http://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/ar...ar-m855-ar-15-ammunition#sthash.JjcTEXq2.dpbs

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  9. Gumpy

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    Thanks for the good news. It just goes to show, that no one is a law in themselves!
     
  10. rs917

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    The fight is not over yet, but good to know there is still justice in this world.
     
  11. SHOOTER13

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    BREAKING: After Scrapping AR-15 Ammo Ban, ATF Director B. Todd Jones Resigning

    “ATF employees are hard-working, dedicated individuals who serve the public to make our nation safer every day,” said Jones. “I have seen firsthand their extraordinary commitment to combatting violent crime, ridding the streets of criminals, and leveraging all available resources to keep our communities safe," Jones said in a statement. “I will truly miss leading and working side-by-side with these men and women in their pursuit of ATF’s unique law enforcement and regulatory mission."

    Jones confirmed in a statement sent to ATF employees and agents that he will be returning to the private sector and said he never planned to stay longer than 18 months in the position. His last day at the Bureau will be March 31.

    "On March 31, 2015, I will be leaving ATF and Federal government service and returning to the private sector. I am pleased to tell you that Deputy Director Tom Brandon will serve as Acting Director upon my departure.

    When I came to ATF in August 2011 to serve as the Acting Director, I only expected to stay about 18 months; I was fortunate to stay more than three years, part of that as a Senate-confirmed Director. During that time, as a result of your efforts, ATF has continued – efficiently and effectively – to protect the public and make a difference in the communities it serves," Jones said.