Iowa/Texas concealed carry reciprocity agreement

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  1. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    I have asked USA Carry to check their reciprocity map for the correct information whether Iowa accepts a Texas Carry Permit. NO is the answer I got from Texas DPS/CHL.

    USACarry insists there is an agreement that states Iowa does permit a Texas carry permit. Iowa does not.

    This email was sent to me by the Texas DPS today.; 5/23/2013 (The drivers license division seems to believe their own rules also so it is possible the DPS does not know it's own laws either. But, this is what I will go by because the DPS sent it to me. hombre243 5/23/2013


    Here’s theinformation that the department has available about Texas – Iowa Reciprocitybelow.



    http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RSD/CHL/legal/reciprocity/index.htm



    Iowa


    Unilateral Reciprocity
    Texas Governor RickPerry signed a unilateral proclamation recognizing Iowa Concealed HandgunLicenses on April 14, 2005 allowing citizens with concealed handgun licensesissued by Iowa to legally carry concealed handguns in Texas. This is not areciprocal agreement, therefore, Texas Concealed Handgun Licenses holders mayNOT carry concealed handguns in Iowa.

    view agreement



    Dannette

    Contact Center Manager




    Texas Department of Public Safety
    Regulatory Services Division
    Agency Website: www.dps.texas.gov
    Division Website: www.dps.texas.gov/rsd

    AGENCY CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:

    Thismessage contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), youmay not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any informationcontained in the message. If you have received this message in error,please advise the sender and delete the message.


    Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 11:03 AM
    To: RSD_Customer_Relations
    Subject: CHL - Other



    Comments: Greetings; I amtrying to clarify whether Iowa accepts Texas concealed carry permit/licenses.Texas DPS site says Texas does accept Iowa, but Iowa does not accept TexasLicenses. USACarry.comreciprocity maps, and the person running the site say Iowa does accept Texasconcealed carry license. Will you please tell me which is correct? AND, willyou also advise the authority that is giving wrong information that they needto change that information online? It could save some people much time andmoney not to mention it could keep them, or me out of jail. I have an IowaCarry License. I am not fully credentialed here in Texas as I may move back toIowa. However, whether I stay or go this information needs to be clarified.Thank you very much (hombre243)
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  2. SWO1

    SWO1 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporting

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    According to Iowa Senate File 2379 Effectice Jan 1 2011 Iowa reconizies Valid CCW permits from EVERY STATE that issues them. They do not issue a Reciprocity List. They also do not enter into agreements with States that require one to honor Iowa CCW. So I would say USA Carry and about 6 other sites are correct. UNLESS SF 2379 has been changed since 1/1/2011.
     

  3. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    A unilateral agreement is one sided. Texas Department of Public Safety says Iowa does not allow Texas Concealed Permits.
    Texas does recognize Iowa. Not a reciprocal agreement.

    I sent an email to the Gov of Texas. Maybe he can set his employees straight.
     
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  4. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    Here is a response from DesMoines, IA governor's office.

    Subject: RE: TX CHL


    May 23, 2013

    ATTN: Name Blocked for privacy purposes

    Yes, Iowa recognizes the Texas CHL. Iowa law provides for universal recognition. As a matter of law, any valid permit or license to carry issued by any state is recognized as an Iowa Permit to Carry Weapons, but only if the permit or license is held by a person who is not a resident of Iowa.



    Ross Loder, Bureau Chief
    Program Services Bureau, Administrative Services Division
    Iowa Department of Public Safety
    215 East 7th Street
    Des Moines, IA 50319
     
  5. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    And another...looks like Texas DPS is behind the times knowing it's own laws.

    ANSWER: Iowa law has not changed in this regard. An Iowa carry permit still allows for the concealed or open carrying of handguns,
    rifles, and shotguns, excluding those classified by Iowa law as offensive weapons (federal NFA or Class 3). An Iowa carry permit also
    allows the concealed carrying of other non-firearm dangerous weapons such as knives with blades in excess of five inches, switchblade

    knives, Tasers/stun guns, or any other dangerous weapon. NOTE: Non-firearm dangerous weapons may be carried openly without a
    permit. Non-firearm dangerous weapons may also be regulated by local ordinance that is more stringent than Iowa law.




    QUESTION: Does my Iowa permit to carry allow me to have a loaded firearm anywhere in my vehicle?




    ANSWER: Yes. You may carry a loaded handgun, rifle or shotgun in a motor vehicle; however this does not apply to snowmobiles or



    all-terrain vehicles (see Iowa Department of Natural Resources: Iowa Hunting Laws and Weapons Permit Applicability)


    QUESTION: Does an Iowa permit to carry allow me to carry a firearm during certain restricted hunting seasons or while in state parks?


    Answer: Check the following link to the Iowa Department of Natural Resources: Iowa Hunting Laws and Weapons Permit Applicability


    QUESTION: If I am stopped by a law enforcement officer in Iowa, am I required to declare that I am carrying a loaded firearm?




    ANSWER: No, but it is really good idea. Iowa law does not require such a declaration; however, as a safety measure for both the
    permit holder and the officer, making such a declaration voluntarily is recommended and encouraged.



    QUESTION: Will my Iowa driver’s license be flagged to indicate that I have an Iowa permit to carry?




    ANSWER: No. Iowa law does not provide for this.




    QUESTION: Can fingerprints be collected in conjunction with submittal of an application for a permit?




    ANSWER: If an issuing officer encounters a situation that involves a dispute related to the identity of an applicant or a conviction that is
    attributed to an applicant, the submission of fingerprints may be the most expedient method to clear up the dispute regarding identity
    or criminal history. Fingerprints might also help to accelerate the process of an appeal to the FBI of a denial based on a NICS check.



    QUESTION: I live in another state. Can I get an Iowa nonprofessional permit to carry weapons?




    ANSWER: No. Iowa nonprofessional permits to carry weapons will only be issued to qualified Iowa residents. Nonresidents will still be
    able to apply for professional permits to carry weapons if needed for employment related reasons.



    QUESTION: I live in another state. Will Iowa honor my concealed weapon permit issued in another state?




    ANSWER: Iowa will honor any valid carry permit issued by any other state and will grant all privileges to such permit holders as those
    granted to Iowa residents including the concealed or open carrying of a firearm (excluding those classified by Iowa law as offensive
    weapons (federal NFA or Class 3)) and the concealed carrying of other non-firearm dangerous weapons such as knives with blades in
    excess of five inches, switchblade knives, Tasers/stun guns, or any other dangerous weapon. Non-firearm dangerous weapons may be
    carried openly without a permit. Non-firearm dangerous weapons may also be regulated by local ordinance that is more stringent than
    Iowa law. You do not have to be a resident of the state from which your permit was issued. However, an Iowa resident may only carry
    with an Iowa issued permit.



    QUESTION: My state requires a reciprocity agreement before it can recognize an out-of-state permit. Will Iowa enter into such a
    reciprocity agreement?



    ANSWER: No. Iowa law does not provide for entering into reciprocity agreements with states that require them. Iowa will honor any

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    Thanks SW for the info. I just had to find out for sure...so I went a lookin.