Lever Help

Discussion in 'Lever Action' started by Jensen, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. Jensen

    Jensen Member

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    Just joined the forum. Great place.

    Seems this has been asked many times, but I'm still confused.

    Fresh from the store with a new 1894SS .44. Trying to figure if it's a remlin? The rolls are very difficult to read. One side seems to be "EP" with the "E" barely readable. A capital "T" clearly visible right after. The other side appears to be "BG".

    s/n: 9181xxxx

    Barrel is stamped New Haven.

    It was so hard to find, I just bought it on the spot.

    As a kid, my matched 1894s (357/44) were such incredible guns. How dumb to sell them decades ago.


    Thank you for any advice you might have. Fit & finish is ok, but seems like my oldies were better? So many things are better when you're a kid!


    Best,
    Mark
     
  2. axxe55

    axxe55 Well-Known Member

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    Mark i am going by what's marked on my Marlin X7's, which are the bolt actions and could be totally different from the lever actions. but i have two, an XS7 in 7mm-08 which is marked EP and North Haven, CT, and an XL7 in 25-06 which is marked JM and North Haven, CT, then my XS7VH in 308 is marked REP and Mayfield, KY. both the 7mm-08 and the 25-06 were purchased before the move to the New York operations facility and the 308 was purchased after the move to New York. my thinking is if it has North Haven CT on the barrel, i think it might have been made before the move to the New York Remington plant. hopefully someone has some more detailed information will lend their input.
     

  3. Jensen

    Jensen Member

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    Thanks Axxe,

    I'm even more confused now.

    The "EP" roll on the barrel (guess the 'R' didn't make it) means its was made at the Remington plant. No idea what the "T" after that means??

    Other side of the barrel is stamped "BG"?? No idea what that means. The lack of an "MR" or any alphas in the serial number seems to mean the receiver was made by Marlin in 2009. Receiver/stock quality is just ok.

    The only (slightly) mangled screw is on the forearm. The forearm cover is skewed a bit.

    I paid $800 and hoped to get better. Although this is the only one I found after weeks of searching.

    Any opinions? I could be picky and send back to Marlin or just relax & enjoy, hoping to get a "JM" someday.

    Any thoughts are welcome. Thank you.


    Best,
    Mark
     
  4. axxe55

    axxe55 Well-Known Member

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    that's alright Mark, i'm equally confused too! i am just noting what is marked on my barrels, and they may mark the lever actions with different markings than the bolt actions. i can only go by when my were purchased and what markings are on my barrels. heck, i even tried to date when my Marlin M60 was made and that came out wrong! because i know it wasn't made in 1954!
     
  5. Jensen

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    I think the (barely readable) "BG" stamp is Barrel Groove. That is my guess anyway as a noob. I'm surprised that the number isn't stamped after that? The box is marked "27BG".

    The remaining mystery is the barrel "T" stamp right after the "EP".

    Also - I'm finding many 1894 owners have a s/n: 91xxxxxx (no MN or other alphas) with REP barrels. Lack of craftmanship seems to start at the barrel with a mashed screw head and slightly off-center forearm collet.

    Amazing that the assembler would mash a screw head like that.

    Still haven't gotten to the range. Really hoping it feeds well! It's a beautiful looking gun.


    Best,
    Mark
     
  6. duster066

    duster066 Well-Known Member Supporting

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    My new 94CS 357 is stamped Ilion, NY.
     
  7. Jensen

    Jensen Member

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    Hi Duster,
    Have you shot it yet? 80+ degrees makes for a hot, unpleasant indoor range here in Florida.

    Are you happy with the quality?

    I wanted a .357, but the .44 was the only '94 to be had in the area.

    Congrats and hope you enjoy it.


    Best,
    Mark
     
  8. duster066

    duster066 Well-Known Member Supporting

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    Ya I put about 230 rounds of various lead reloads through it. It fed everything reasonably well with a few hang ups on SWC. It scattered both 125gr loads a bit, but shot to POA with the 158 and 180gr loads. It was very nice out to 75 yards the max distance at that range. I'm happy.
     
  9. Hyphenated

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    Jensen...my guess would be (and it is a guess) you have very late manufactured Marlin parts that were assembled by Remington. I think I read somewhere that the proof marks don't go on a gun until it is assembled and the proof round fired in the weapon. The last detail that is done after the firearm proves it is safe for Saami pressure. So it would make some sense that the barrel is marked New Haven, but has a REP or EP proof mark. The left over parts could not get a JM stamp because it was not proofed until Remington got their hands on it. JMHO :) I say shoot it and enjoy. :D
     
  10. 28Shooter

    28Shooter Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporting

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    It might be like my older S&W revolvers, they'll shoot 158 grain loads (RN and SWC) to POA with real tight groups but will throw any other load around like you're feeding chickens.
     
  11. seasidehunter

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    if your serial # is 91 ------- then it should have been made in 2009

    91 minus a 100 = 9

    someone check my math

    that shold make it a Remlin I think
     
  12. axxe55

    axxe55 Well-Known Member

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    i think that sounds correct, and with his REP mark maybe the barrel was made at the Remington plant, but the rifle was assembled in North Haven plant.
     
  13. Rooster59

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    +1 on what 28shooter said. My (wife's) 1894C shoots 158 and 180 rounds like a laser. The 125 grainers aren't very compatible but not everyone gets those results. After the first try with 125's for a 357 pistol we have stuck with the heavier bullets. The 158's can be made to go slow or fast. No reason to go with a lighter bullet to go fast or for lower recoil. Recoil is negligible in a 357 rifle no matter what you shoot.
     
  14. duster066

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    Maybe the twist rate is a little fast for the 125gr or maybe it just didn't like those two loads. It all good since it'll get fed 158 and heavier rounds for most of my uses.