Midway USA Due May 9th

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  1. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    Due on May 9th

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/78...-diameter-122-grain-lead-flat-nose-box-of-500

    Due day past and so was I...Now that order was backordered until 7/something/2013. BUT Hunter Supply bullets are available for now so I ordered them and saved some money. They are supposed to ship today.

    Q: Is a shorter or longer bullet more likely to tumble? I am shooting a Hi-Point 9mm and my home cast bullets have had a tendency to tumble at about 20-25 yards out. These bullets I ordered were 125 gr. My tumblers were 122 or so from a Lee mold. I don't see any tumbling with the lighter factory bullets. And of course, I have already ordered the 125 gr Hunter Supply bullets. I was thinking, and this always gets me into trouble:rolleyes:, that the longer bullet has more surface area to help impart spin from a short barrel. BUT, could it be that the long bullet needs a different twist from the twist needed for stabilizing a shorter bullet? (I am not sure how that goes...shorter needs faster or slower twist?)

    Whatever...I got em now and they're on the truck.
     
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  2. Spoon

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    TOO MUCH $$ for LCs

    I can get Missouri Bullet Company's pills in 115, 124 & 125 for less than $35 w/tax at LGS or drive the 40 odd miles (after calling to reserve with backorders and all) and pick 'em up in Kingsville even cheaper. $56 :eek: is STEEP! Got a few thousand loaded in 9, 38, 40 & 45 with about 400 of my preferred "small ball" 124gr in a box "in progress" :D

    http://www.missouribullet.com/results.php?category=5&secondary=8
     

  3. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    MO Bullet Co.

    I never heard of them. They have a longish turnaround time for online orders, but the price may make it worth the wait. Next time I order I will try them out. Thanks for the link.
     
  4. SWO1

    SWO1 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporting

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    Considering the overall situation we got it pretty darn good here in this part of Missouri. Not bad supply and fair prices. Local LGSs and an abundance of small to medium companies seem to be a lot better than the BIG BOX STORES. Wal Mart is really the only one having a stocking problem....but of course they have the rock bottom prices on ammo (hoarders/price gouging resellers mecca)...but have very little, unless you want 30.06, .270, .300, that's piled up and has cobwebs.
     
  5. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    Buying what is available...

    I have had a .270 and it was a tack driver. How does a .30-06 compare to the .270 for versatility? Can it be loaded down for practice shooting, lower in recoil than a souped up .270? I wouldn't mind getting something that is available more often than not, even if it is a bit more costly for the ammo.

    I know the .30-06 has lighter as well as much heavier bullets for multi use, but is it really that versatile...good in all calibers?
     
  6. SWO1

    SWO1 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporting

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    For versatility don't think you can beat a 30-06. Probley biggest selection of bullets, powder and loading data. From varmits to largerst critters in North America and a lot in Africa as well. EVERY gun maker has many models as well as factory ammo. One of the few that hasn't disappeared off the shelves. In the factory loads its an A$$ kicker in most guns, which is why most don't do a lot of plinking with it along with most Long case ammo, like .270 ect., but reloading can be tamed WAY DOWN. In the old military rifles, 1903 springfileds, 1917 US Enfield, M1 its really a pleasure to shoot. Even tho I Bad Mouth it, I respect it for what it is....without a doubt the best military, sporting round to ever come around. I'll admit I have been eying a Remington 760 pump at the LGS. Its a short barrel carbine, an older one. I may have my preferences, but I ain't as dumb as I look.......:eek:
     
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  7. hombre243

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    Kind of what I was thinking

    I was thinking about a Savage Boar Rifle in .308, but a 30-06 would be a better choice...I want one rifle that is good all around. I knew the 06 would do it but I needed a 2nd on that notion. Thanks.
     
  8. Spoon

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    hombre - EVERYONE needs at least 1 '06! It's been around 50 years since my old man and his trapping/fishing buddy developed a lite load using '000' buck shot if I recall. In the seating process, the case mouth served as a shaver to nip off the excess as the gently situated the soft lead ball into the neck. Don't know all the tricks they used. I was relegated to loading shotshells, but didn't get the opportunity to fool with high pressure metallic cartridges, till later. 38 target loads was my "cut off" back then. The buck shot load delivered ~ a 100gr payload that hit coyotes that answered the calls like a 12 inch Lodge cast iron skillet and probably doing a hostile 1800-2000fps...maybe? Pretty accurate too coming out of an A3-03 to 100yds. Absolutely not a problem to shoot in terms of recoil. I've got some sizzling 125s that are very tolerable and some pretty hot 180s that will let you know there's a mule trying to kick you shoulder out of socket. Recommended by one of Western Powders Ballisticians as fully safe. I will NEVER repeat that recipe...EVER. I don't mind '06 recoil except for extended bench sessions. of more than 15-20 rounds. I've shot upwards of a 100 on more than one occasion, but the heft of the old '03 sure helped. Be a tough day with my XL to go that many rounds :eek:

    Well...don't just sit reading...go find a dependable all-around rifle or carbine in a long-time favorite caliber an make friends with it :)
     
  9. hombre243

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    Recoil shy...NOT.

    Certain conditions and positions are to be avoided when shooting the big ones, and I consider a 3006 a big one. But, as you said, benchin will cause more felt recoil. and shooting from most any other position will lesson the blow on the shoulder. I do remember that with the .270. I also remember it from shooting the Lyman .54 Great Plains Rifle and the 5.5 lb 50 cal T/C Bone Collector. Stand up on my hind legs like a man and it doesn't hurt so much.

    So, I appreciate the versatility afforded by the 30-06...light loads or bullets for varmints, medium for medium sized game and heavy for the big dangerous stuff. I think though, that I found the solution to the recoil so even going a bit higher than medium loads should be doable. I got a couple Pachmayr Decelerator recoil pads; one for the T/C-BC for the eye relief and the kick, and the 30-30 for the eye relief, but not necessarily for the kick. For a slip on recoil pad I was impressed how much it helped. No reason I can't put one on the '06 if needed.

    Now I am all in a tiz until I can get an '06. Dang...now I gotta have one.
     
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  10. FOUR4D4

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    Thats nice that huntin rounds are avalible
     
  11. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    444...10,000 rounds of what? This thread started out to be about 9mm lead...just in case anyone shoots 9mm lead. What do you have on backorder?
     
  12. hombre243

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    I ordered 1000 147 gr lead bullets from Missouri Bullet Company on the 6th of this month. Their site said there is a 5-6 week turnaround time. I got an email today (26th June) saying the order has shipped. I am happy...the order shipped 2-3 weeks earlier than stated. Maybe other bullet manufacturers will start picking up also. I was impressed with the prices and I gotta give Spoon a big THANKS for pointing me in their direction. I noticed MidwayUSA has jacked their bullet prices way up. Bye Bye Midway...No more bullets from you.
     
  13. Spoon

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    Thanks for the "plug" hombre. Hope you didn't tell 'em about my CONSULTANT FEES ;) Hope they make the mud in da jug do trix!
    Spoon
     
  14. hombre243

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    Mudjugs and lead boolits

    I got the 147 grain LTC from Mo Bullet Co today...6/29. Good lookin pills. All lubed up and everything.
    Midway does not show them in their inventory but Midsouth has some Magnus pills for $40.13/500...out of stock of course. MO Boolits wins again. $34.50/500 + flat rate shipping. $14.00 for up to + 65 lbs.
    I had planned to move and the reloading gear is all packed up... but now that I got em I want to try them. What the heck...I hate waiting :cool: I will let ya know.
     
  15. Spoon

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    As the swamp rats/dedicate Christian duck slayers and call makers say..."HAPPY HAPPY"! Let us all know what you can tear up with them.
     
  16. hombre243

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    Everyday paperpunchers

    These lead bullets will be for subsonic paperpunching. Cant see much use on anything else. My pistol shootin aint nuthin to get excited about so a picture of the target will be like lookin at a picture of Swiss Cheese...except the holes will be .356 instead of 50 cal.
     
  17. FOUR4D4

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    I thought Midway was one of the few online places that was not price gouging Thanks for the info I know Cheaper Than Dirt is high and im avoiding any dealing with them
     
  18. Gumpy

    Gumpy AKA Richard Prestage

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    Where are you moving to Hombre?
     
  19. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    Hey Gump,
    Not far. Still in TX. Just need to get my own place away from the dope smoking unregistered gun totin, porn kings who invade whenever they want. (Owner and his brother) If I knew, I would have stayed in Iowa. I let the Sheriff know. I'm bad.
     
  20. Gumpy

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    Good for you!!