Real german G3 battle rifle

Discussion in 'Other Guns' started by moparman1911, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. moparman1911

    moparman1911 Well-Known Member

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    This is a german,straight from germany.Not a build gun from century arms.I have documents to prove it.A true G3.It shoots 7.62.51 nato and has dioplar battle sites and even for a battle rifle with non magnetic south african ammo i can do 4 inch groups or better with open sites at 200 yards and no kick because of the stock spring system.It is a unique design.it is a delayed roller blowback system.with the rollers being the headspacing.Tons of factory parts and they sell metal or aluminum mags everywhere and are cheap.I must have 40 mags but they fit my H&K91 and spanish CETME also.Everyone thinks spain bought the rights from germany to use the delayed roller blowback design, but the germans saw how reliable and strong it was. They bought the patent from spain.The only true spanish CETMES that are not build guns where imported by mars distributing around or before 1988 or so.If you never heard of the delayed roller blowback system.There is plenty of info on the net and is fascinating.By the way.The G3 was a lower model to the best and most loved H&K91. Is basically the same gun with different furniture and it has the bayonet lug attatched along with the factory muzzel brake and all three guns can use the cetme bayonet..I will post pics
     

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  2. SHOOTER13

    SHOOTER13 RETIRED MODERATOR Lifetime Supporting

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    Awesome battle rifle mopar...!
     

  3. moparman1911

    moparman1911 Well-Known Member

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    lol...

    thanks shooter i really appreciate you digging my guns.i looked and posted 18 guns in less than a month that where non marlin guns and you liked everyone of them.including my 1895 guide gun in 45/70 sbl.thanks brother..
     
  4. SHOOTER13

    SHOOTER13 RETIRED MODERATOR Lifetime Supporting

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    I really am enjoying your collection mopar...!!
     
  5. moparman1911

    moparman1911 Well-Known Member

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    ur the bomb man

    i enjoy posting bacause i know you know a fine firearm when you see one and most of my collection is military they are the rarest most desired firearms ever made.i have been searching and collecting for years.i have more money in guns than i do in my house literally.both are highly insured.but i posted at least 20 of the rarest finest weapons ever made in less than a month.shooter,i am just getting out of my first safe now.no one else ever likes my guns or comments but i appreciate you liking my firearms and knowing how rare these pieces really are.a beat to death blown out bore h&k91 goes for 4k.i have one unfired in the box,papered right from the ulm factory in germany. i was offered 10k for that gun and declined it.i have never in my life seen a true pre ban h&k91 in the box 4 digit serial number right from the most well known gun makers in all of germany.it means alot my brother that you see the true beauty of my collection and post you like.your the bomb man.i have 4 more safes to go,wait til i get to my thompsons.i have one of each ever made even the commando model with 10 inch barrel.it is papered.people golf,tennis i collect the worlds rarest and cleanest firearms in the world and am quite proud of it.if you where in florida and let you shoot anything you want.blow 1k rounds out of my rpk in 12 seconds.incredible.man i am happy your my friend brother..
     
  6. SWO1

    SWO1 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporting

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    First off Mopar let me say I also fully enjoy your posting and pics of your vast collection great military firearms. My 38 years in the Marine Corps allowed me to encounter many from different countries and also shoot them. But almost always never could really get to tear them down and see just how they worked. A question for you sir:

    You mention a blow-back system. Is this different than the gas operated one used on the M1, M14 and family of M16 US types. I know the systems on our (USA) guns are a real pain to clean and many of our military counterparts claim are less reliable in field conditions than theirs. But I believe and from what I have experienced ours are more accurate. Your thoughts please.
     
  7. moparman1911

    moparman1911 Well-Known Member

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    to answer you question..

    swo1.completely different in every single way possible.before i go any further thank you for appreciating my firearms.not many do. Only if you where a military man or up on history or rare firearms.most have never heard of half my guns,so thank you.i hate cleaning ar15`s.the bolt with it cotter pin,cam,firing pin,the gas tube always fouls up at the worst times.i carry a dozen pipe cleaners with me so i can gt the darn thing to eject,finicky with ammo.everyone knocks ak47`s.look at what ar15 companies are doing,either a retrofit spring and piston system exactly like the ak47 or now straight up making them piston driven like the ak47.people say ak47`s are garbage as far as accuracy.i own twenty five ak47`s and can tell you.if you use good brass.shoot three shots at a time,no rambo 30 shots in 20 seconds.at 100 yards you can easily do a four inch grouping with open sites.it is an internediate cartridge,like a 30/30 give or take.good to about 150 yards tops with practice.but it is a large arching bullet,so the moa is crap.but again it is no sniper gun.it is what it is.in the early 60`s a spanish designer came up with a design unlike the gun world has ever seen.it is a huge two piece bolt that runs on tracks with rollers and the firing pin slides in the middle with a stop.the rollers are actually the headspacing,so if your spent casing start coming out screwed up or it won`t feed likely you go up a size in rollers and it has a huge buffered spring in the back that pushes it forward.like two feet long and has a huge buffering system so the gun has zero kick even if you dump twenty rounds of 7.62nato.the muzzle brake and buffer keep the gun on target and it does not climb like you think it would.the simplest design in the world.the stock is held in by two pins.you push the pins out and there are two holes in the stock to put the pins so you do not lose them.pretty ingenious.the stock comes off with the buffer spring.you turn the gun down and the whole bolt carrier rolls out of the gun.inside there are tracks for the rollers,very cool.you take a small screwdriver and put it between the two part bolt assembly which is humongous and turn and the extractor and firing pin and rollers drop free.spray them down with brake clean.spray them with a good gun oil.as the two parts to the bolt carrier are apart you push the firing pin in the back,the extractor sits on the right side,huge ejector.as your ready to push the two pieces together,you roll the rollers into place on the carrier and push them together locking the rollers and extractor in place you shove the whole carrier back in.push the pins out the stock.pop the stock back on.push the pins in and your done.the bolt carrier is about six inches long and two inches wide and is made out of rhynemetal.a metal so strong they use it in super high rounds per minute machine guns.with three parts in it and the rollers that slide in the guides.the gun barely gets dirty.you could not lose a part if you tried.i spray out the whole inside cavity with brake kleen and spray a good gun oil inside,do the same with the bolt and carrier and pop the stock back on and your done.i do not heat the barrels of my guns up.but once in a while i will blow through the 20 round clip just to make sure it is feeding properly and as fast as i can pull the trigger on a target i can hold a pie plate group.you use a car feeler gauge to make sure you have the right roller size and head spacing.the only gun easier to clean is an ak47 and even the ak47 the top cover is a pita sometimes.the gun is a big long heavy durable and accurate firearm.the bolt carrier design was used in the cetme.the g3,h&k91 and any other h&k design and the germans make some of the finest weapons out there.but they bought the delayed roller blowback design from the spanish.if you googled it.the whole gun and carrier show up and you will not believe how simple and huge these parts are.i have never had any hiccups out of any of my guns,never changed rollers and head check with a feeler gauge now and then.there are tons of factory parts cheap.i could give you a million different places to get parts.it is even simpler to take apart than a fal and the parts from a fal basically fall out and go back together in one unit.you will be impressed if you ever shot one or dissasembled one.like i said as fast as you can dump 20 rounds of 308 the gun stays on target and zero kickback.you could shoot the gun all day.they even make five round mags and i shot hogs with it and coyotes.accurate gun for what it was built for.thanks for asking and appreciating my collection.as i said not many people know what kind of guns they are.a ppsh43 that shoots 7.62x25.who would even know what that is if they where not a history buff or like and appreciate miliary rifles...i will keep posting em..i hope you got some info you can use.ptr91 makes a beautiful one. Not german of course but for a very reasonable price for about 1k or so.the guns are indestructable.truly a fine design..
     
  8. moparman1911

    moparman1911 Well-Known Member

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    thank you

    thank you.it is always fun when you learn something new and interesting.if you where in florida you could have you choice i have all three.but they are really fun to shoot and they take special scope mounts that i have but they shoot great without scopes.i will post my cetme next.it is a true pre ban mars distributing pre 88 cetme.no build gun.papered imported right from spain.i do not own a knockoff.i will post my thompson collection i think you will like the commando model with the ten inch barrel.i have a beautifully refurbished from original parts a 1903a3 in walnut and of course 30.06.my garand collection and i have a prized original m14 that gun is a monster.plus one off`s.thanks sw01