Speer bullet warning on lee dies

Discussion in 'Ammo & Reloading' started by oldbrass, Aug 3, 2014.

  1. oldbrass

    oldbrass Well-Known Member

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    Lookin at the little cheat sheets that come with LEE die sets there`s a warning at the bottom that sais Speer doesn`t reccomend LEE dies...I snooped a bit and RCBS owns speer or vice-versa probley a marketing squabble..Just shootin the campfire bull here but has anyone had a problem loading speer with LEE dies ?
     
  2. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    First time I have seen that...or at least if I saw it I ignored it. Which dies is not specified but the notice is that Speer bullets should not be used in certain Lee dies.

    As you mentioned, probably just Speer's way of making Lee seem bad. OK by me. I will just not use Speer bullets.
     

  3. 444Hal

    444Hal Well-Known Member

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    Saw that many years ago, can't remember what it was all about. I use Speer 30-30, 444 & 44mag bullets with Lee dies. No problem.
     
  4. 444Hal

    444Hal Well-Known Member

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    I found this old quote from another forum.......

    Speer never made such a broad recommendation. Speer’s recommendation is: Do not apply a crimp to any bullet that does not have a crimp groove. The die company in question markets a die to produce a “factory crimp” and recommends it be used on any bullet. Speer’s tests, and those by another bullet maker and an independent gun writer, show that crimping a bullet that doesn’t have a crimp groove degrades group size by an average of 40 percent. Other than the crimp die, we have no problem with our bullets in that firm’s dies, although our preference is for RCBS® products.
     
  5. hombre243

    hombre243 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Hal444. Good explanation. Makes sense. Speer doesn't want to get the blame perchance someone does crimp one of their un cannelured bullets and gets a bad result. I crimp them all the time. Especially the blems that have no cannelure, or have them pressed out of their proper place, thus making them blems. No big to me but Speer has to CIA.

    I wonder if it is ok to press your own cannelure and then use a Lee die.