Welcome to the Marlin Firearms Forum Art !!
Thanks buddy, you came to an old farts rescue!Way ahead of you Art...changed the title and text above.
Availability of .450 seems to be non existent so I'll keep looking but also considering the aforementioned .45-70 as both seem to be effective on the stuff I'm interested in.A 45-70 is great for bear defense, specially with the heavy bear loads. But with the shorter barrel Levers, get ready for a lot of kick. But if you like POWERFUL and don't reload, see if you can find a 450Marlin (IE 45-70 on steroids). Same cartridge, but belted so they can't be used in the antique 45-70s.