Air rifles & handguns thread

Discussion in 'Other Weapons' started by SHOOTER13, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. SHOOTER13

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    This thread is for the discussion of air rifles and handguns...whether they are powered by springs, pistons, pnumatics (gas) or carbon dioxide (CO2).

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    My favorite squirrel (chipmunk,rabbit,crow,pigeon,dove,etc) rifle...

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    MECHANISM
    -Velocity: 1200 fps with PBA, 1000 fps with Lead
    -Single Shot
    -Break Barrel: Single Cocking System, Spring piston
    -Automatic Cocking Safety system
    -Manual Trigger safety
    -Barrel: Fluted, Polymer Jacketed Rifled Steel
    -Non-removable noise dampener (with up to 52% reduction)
    -Cocking Effort: 30 lbs
    -Trigger: Second Stage adjustable
    -Manual Safety


    STOCK
    -Stock: Tough All Weather molded Synthetic
    -Butt Plate: Ventilated rubber pad for recoil absorption
    -Cheekpiece: Thin cheekpad molded on each side
    -Checkering: Non-Slip texture design on grip and forearm


    SIGHTS
    -Fiber optic front sight with sight guard
    -Fiber optic adjustable rear sight.


    OPTICS
    -Scope Ramp: Raised Rail
    -Scope: 39x40 standard reticle air rifle scope with one piece solid mount

    SPECIFICATIONS
    -Weight: 5.28 lbs
    -Length: 46.0 inches
    -Ammunition: Any .177 Pellet
    -Caliber: .177
    -Trigger Pull: 3.74 lbs
    -Cocking effort:30 lbs
    -Barrel Length: 18 inches
     
  2. SHOOTER13

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    Just helped a friend clean out his basement / garage and was gifted the following...a Crosman Mark II

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    SPECS:

    Manufacturer: Crosman
    Model: , Model Mark II
    Made In: USA
    Manufactured Dates: 1966 - 1986

    Caliber/Ammunition/Feed: 177, lead pellet or steel BB, single-shot
    Air Source: CO2, 12 g Powerlet
    Accessories: 5 Crosman Powerlets / BB's / .177 pellets / 2 darts


    Weight (lb): 2.8
    Length (in): 11.0
    Body Material: metal
    Finish: black
    Grips: plastic
    Barrel Length (in): 7.75
    Material: steel
    Rifled: yes
    Trigger Action: SA
    Trigger Pull (lbs) 6
    Adjustable: yes
    Sights (front/rear): fixed, fully adjustable
    Velocity (fps): 420 (hi), 320 (lo)
    Sound Level (dB):100
     

  3. Gumpy

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    Good idea for a topic, shooter! SH will be chiming in on this before long.
    I have never owned or shot an adult air rifle before. My plans are that my next rifle will be one. What, in your opinion, would be the minimum caliber and FPS for small game hunting. Range would have to be cyphered in also.
     
  4. SHOOTER13

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    This also came with the deal...a vintage Marksman Repeater.

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    SPECS:

    Power Source: Spring Piston
    Cocking Action: Slide
    Ammo: .177 BBs ( 18 round reservoir ), Pellets, Darts and Bolts
    Velocity: 200 fps
     
  5. SHOOTER13

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    Well Gumpy... minimum caliber for a humane kill to me is .177 pellet...BB's usually don't fly as true or come with so many different shapes and tips to do the job effectively as far as I'm concerned.

    Today's velocities for pellet springers ( like the GAMO above ) start @ 1000 fps ( lead ) and increase with speed when employing the alloy pellets. Then you got the .22 and .25 calibers...along with the new gas powered pnumatics...which help increase the possibilities of meat for the stew...or riddance of the varmint...at increased ranges.

    http://www.gamousa.com/pellets.aspx

    And a good scope ( GAMO above came with a 3-9x40mm ) also increases the chance of a clean kill at distance...

    I got the GAMO Whisper brand new about seven years ago...because it has the sound supressor.

    http://www.gamousa.com/

    Now days...every manufacturer under the sun makes one with some type of sound suppression...and I recommend them for the obvious reason(s).

    Walther, Winchester, Stoeger, Benjamin, Crosman, Beeman...the list is endless !
     
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  6. Gumpy

    Gumpy AKA Richard Prestage

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    Do you like the gas or mechanical best? If I remember right, the mechanical is the faster of the two.
     
  7. SHOOTER13

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    Got these two dove on opening day...one shot / one kill

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  8. SHOOTER13

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    And these varmints never had a chance...

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  9. SHOOTER13

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    Believe it or not...mechanical !

    Why pay for power when you can go free !?

    A box of 25 12gram CO2 cartridges for the Crosman Mark II above cost me $19.99 at Dick's Sporting Goods...$21.29 w/tax.

    The break barrel spring action single shot suppressed Whisper with 3-9 scope is all I need to keep my acreage varmint free !
     
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  10. Nogoat

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    ImageUploadedByMarlin Forum1398636096.479208.jpg cheap practice BB CO2 ImageUploadedByMarlin Forum1398636187.380646.jpg and pump.


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  11. SHOOTER13

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    What make is the "pump" AR Nogoat...!?

    Pellet or BB...?
     
  12. Nogoat

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    Crossman, available at the Wallymat, but shop around, there are a couple of options around $75. Does bb & pellet


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  13. SHOOTER13

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    Thanks for the info...
     
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  15. SHOOTER13

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    Anyone else here own a pellet or BB rifle / handgun...?!
     
  16. SHOOTER13

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    Very nice FOUR...
     
  17. FOUR4D4

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    Heres a picture of one like mine, The neighbors have to do a second look when I have it in the back yard.Mine has an added muzzle break
     

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  18. greyhawk50

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    I have owned a few over the years. Only one left is a Daisy Powerline that I shoot BBs thru although it will shoot pellets. I use it to chase Starlings & Sparrows out of the car port.

    My son has more than a half dozen of various makes, including a Remington. In the winter months when it is cold and nothing else to do, the guys at the Deer Hunters Club set up a Target Trap in the Main Lodge and have a friendly Pellet Gun Competition. My son made the 3'X3' Trap out of a steel electrical enclosure (minus the door) by placing energy absorbing material in the back and a frame on the front to hold the target.

    Of all the air rifles that he owns, he claims that his Gamo Recon is the most accurate.
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    I owned that rifle at one time but it wasn't all that accurate for me. He talked me out of it, took it home and cleaned the lead out of the barrel. Now it is a tack driver.
    Case in point; I never considered cleaning a pellet rifle because it doesn't have a primer or powder. WRONG, If you shoot lead pellets, the barrel does get dirty and that effects the accuracy. Live and learn.

    Another consideration is the optics. The recoil of a pellet rifle is different than that of a rim fire & a center fire. I have heard that if you use a general purpose scope on an air rifle, don't be surprised if, some day, your cross hairs disappear. I can't confirm that either way.
     
  19. Hillbilly

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