[moparman1911]

thanks i own one...

all i have to say after hitler made himself godlike in the eyes of the german people and himself dictator in 1938 he banned any and all civilians to own firearms and look what happened there.the devils best trick was to make us believe he did not exist..

rpk romanian machine gun the romanian equivelant to the saw but in 30 caliber..

 

[sandlynx]

Silenced weapons

39 States currently allow Private ownership of Fully Automatic Weapons : AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, ME, MD, MA, MN, MS, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NJ, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, WV, WI and WY. You must be 21 and registered with the ATF&E.
Several states require more restrictions than most.

33 States allow Private ownership of Suppressed Weapons (Silencers).

eldar

Reply:
Please note that Michigan is not on the list and does not allow silencers. How da****d dumb.
I'm pretty much a libertarian and I believe that anyone who wants to own and shoot anything for self defense or for any other reason, has a right to under the 2nd amendment, as well as under the rules of survival. (As long as they're not shooting at me.) Right now, I think we're functioning under the rules of survival.
I repeat: The gun laws are made for the benefit of the criminals, and that's the criminals from the Federal level on down. What Hitler did? Yeah, it's happening here. Understanding covert ops should be right at the top of your survival list.

 

[moparman1911]

full auto

axxe that`s why i compared it to hitler i am a history buff and after hitler did that people just started dissapearing and i don`t have to go any further on that but harsher penalties,our hard earned money is going to pay for these animals,child molesters,rapists, murders,drug sellers i am sorry but they style in jail and cry about their rights and their hbo is not on today.makes me sick and i am going to as far as to say the repeat offenders using our money not caring about human life.i think the statistic is around 75k or so for one inmate for 1 year this might sound cold but if you don`t care about human life and keep doing evil th
ings a bullet is only 25 cents.these are evil people we are talking about ready to snatch the life out of you for whatever you have in your pockets like the roman games in the arena man against man, thumbs down

i also know a bit of full auto and silenced weapons i posted pictures of my rpk machine gun and did not post a pic but told of my silenced warrior 1911..the think is a work of art and a beast it has been on the board for four days and i see a ton of people looked at it only two commented on it after the debate on fully automatic weapons i thought i would have heard more and yes i spent an arm and a leg for it but as a fine marlin forum member said maybe some people getting fully automatic weapons because the see what is coming.

 

[moparman1911]

full auto rpk in 7.62

i also know a bit of full auto and silenced weapons i posted pictures of my rpk machine gun and did not post a pic but told of my silenced warrior 1911..the thing is a work of art and a beast it has been on the board for four days and i see a ton of people looked at it only two commented on it after the debate on fully automatic weapons i thought i would have heard more and yes i spent an arm and a leg for it, but as a fine marlin forum member said maybe some people getting fully automatic weapons because the see what is coming.

the way our economy is and what is happening around the word i feel we are going to implode within,with such a weak government and our deficeit and the fact america is owned by companies around the world,yes we are not the united states,china,japan,greece i could go on and on have more stock and we owe them more money we are just america in name but everyone is afraid to speak of it.we need to speak of it and do something about it now before we are a third world country,i may even go as far as to say i feel america is more socialist than democratic and fear the liberals are gaining stengh and fear for the american way of life.we need to free america from america and this might be going too far but i am unspoken kinda guy and not stating to harm anyone or anything,i am just saying there is going to be a civil war between americans and the government.we are not free. in florida, there are cameras everywhere saying it is to show speeders and to fine them. there was an investigation if you stopped at a red light and you where on the white line you got a running red light ticket,just take money out of your pocket even though you never ran a light they never said anything about being on the white line and some cars where barely touching the white line.the eye in the sky sees everything,big brother is your neighber the clerk at the grocery store.i had mentioned about hitler and germany in my previous full auto post.he also had family member against family member,neighber against neighber,he had them so scared they figured even if the neighber did not do anything tell the ss before their neighber calls on them.it is starting to happen here if you look very closely...god bless and unite as a country and change it as we are not supposed to fear our government they are supposed to fear us.

 

[moparman1911]

correct sir

personally, i think there should be no restrictions of any kind; there is the 2nd amendment--"shall not be abridged". Laws have been made to restrict this freedom and that has happened because the criminals are now in charge of our government, on the federal, state and local levels. Since the criminals are in charge, they are creating laws that are convenient for them so as to make the people helpless and easy to control and eliminate as has been done previously in history, over and over again in numerous countries. That's why the 2nd amendment was written--so that it won't happen here.
As to anyone wanting to own an automatice weapon, they may have a little more foresight into what's coming in the future and are trying to prepare. Going up against anyone (no specifics here, use your head) who has a high-powered automatic weapon with a pea-shooting shootgun or rifle is suicide. The criminals in charge are aware of the effects of this imbalance of weapon power. Read a little more history and you'll become radical-minded like me! :d

i owned a gunshop for many years gave the conceiled carry class and even had a gunsmith onboard.i had a class three permit and out of all the years i owned the shop i bought my rpk machine gun for the reason you spoke of and have well over 250.000 rounds of 7.62x39 ammo but i might have sold one maybe two.first it takes forever for the paperwork even a blown out bore pos m16 from the 60`s goes over 10k them. You have so many hoops you have to jump through they make you want to quit.working with fdle and the atf my field rep made the paperwork a bit faster and that gun is not a build gun or sear gun or used.it is brand new and the only rounds that went through it where mine.i could have bought a small new car for the price i paid but at the time i had the money and i am glad i have it even if i don`t shoot it that much.i hate to carry it to the range with gun and mags and ammo is around 30 pounds the sling is a joke but if you check out the pics the thing really is a beast..but you are correct sir

 

[moparman1911]

22 guns

it is a proven fact 22 caliber cheap throw away guns kill more people every year than any gun ever made.bedsides the california bank shootout.the bad guys use small caliber quieter throwaway guns..

 

[Bucky]

Watch the bastards !
They did it in Oz, after a mass shooting
No semi autos, or pump action shotguns, but a farmer can have them, because he may well have to shoot feral animals, on his property, or put down lots of dying drought effected stock or injured stock.
Just amazing stupid laws !

Hand guns are a different story, incredibly over regulated, and generally too much trouble, for me anyway
But Criminal element can get any amount, and yet they make it hard for the recreational shooter to obtain

Cheers
Bucky

 

[SHOOTER13]

A Constitutional Right not Exercised is a Right Surrendered...

 

[FOUR4D4]

Certain states have 10,000 primer rule has anyone heard this?

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=6&t=1018237

 

[moparman1911]

i agree..

watch the bastards !
They did it in oz, after a mass shooting
no semi autos, or pump action shotguns, but a farmer can have them, because he may well have to shoot feral animals, on his property, or put down lots of dying drought effected stock or injured stock.
Just amazing stupid laws !

Hand guns are a different story, incredibly over regulated, and generally too much trouble, for me anyway
but criminal element can get any amount, and yet they make it hard for the recreational shooter to obtain

cheers
bucky

bucky as a dealer for many,many years i have had the so called inner scoop on things.i know in the next three months ammo will triple 3x so get your ammo now.i know this as fact.as i was on the atf tri county atf board of dealers,and believe me i was the most outspoken but always respectfull.thanks for you post,if you have any extra money for ammo get some now and reloading material also.

 

[Spoon]

Ammo Price Increase???

bucky as a dealer for many,many years i have had the so called inner scoop on things.i know in the next three months ammo will triple 3x so get your ammo now.i know this as fact.as i was on the atf tri county atf board of dealers,and believe me i was the most outspoken but always respectfull.thanks for you post,if you have any extra money for ammo get some now and reloading material also.

moparman - What "proof(s)" do you have on this major price jack? Dealer speculation or suppliers notifying you ahead of time the train is definitely coming down the tracks. I'm always leary of speculations or assertion/inuendos...woud really like to find definitive answer before I alert the calvary around here. I've already put other feelers out as soon as I read your note. We're 30 days away from finding out whether to beef up or just stay vigiliant. Discussed a major family acquisition of said materials two days ago while send a lot of rounds downrange. I/we'd like to know to speed up our actions...if'n the S is gonna strike the blades.

I'm still leary of what "Oct Surprise" that shifty and his puppetteers have in store for the American people. I think the stinking so-called journalists stole that line from me way back in February when I first mentioned that "things could get mighty interesting come October".

Thanks from me on behalf of our family/friends and everyone on this site.

Spoon

 

[Spoon]

Small Arms Primer Limits???

FOUR4D4 - I DUG and I dug...couldn't find DOT/ATF prohibitions; there is so much info and garbage on the net that finding stuff sometimes is a real pain...but here's what I found from 3 separate states:

MASSACHUSETTS

(a) Small Arms Ammunition: Private Use. Small arms ammunition in amounts over that specified in 527 CMR 13.04(1), that do not exceed 100,000 total rounds at any one time, may be kept for private use provided none of the individual limitations listed below are exceeded.
1. 10,001 to 30,000 rounds of rim fire ammunition.
2. 10,001 to 50,000 rounds of center fire ammunition not to include shotgun ammunition.
3. 10,001 to 50,000 rounds of shotgun ammunition not to include center fire ammunition.

(c) Small Arms Ammunition Primers: Private Use
Not to exceed 10,000 Small Arms Ammunition Primers.

http://www.goal.org/masslawpages/ammostorage.html
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Extracted from North Carolina Narrative:
Primers should be protected from impact, friction, static electricity,
heat/sparks/flame and other abuses which could cause unwanted detonation.
To keep them in good condition they also should be kept from exposure to
water/moisture, organic solvents including oils, gasoline, various
lubricants and thinners, and heat. Temperatures above 140 degrees F.
cause a decrease in the usable lifetime. Therefore the same desiderata
of cool and dry are recommended. See the discussion on storage of
smokeless powder. Note that excessively low humidity can lead to
undesirable static electricity condition, and so 60% or higher relative
humidity is recommended for working with primers. "Modern sporting
ammunition primers will not absorb moisture under normal or even severe
conditions of atmospheric humidity. There is no advantage to be gained
from air-tight containers. The factory containers in which they are
packaged need only normal conditions of storage." Up to 10,000 primers
may be stored in a residence.

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/VIIE6.html
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Washington State
RCW 70.74.350
Small arms ammunition, primers and propellants — primers, transportation and storage requirements.

Small arms ammunition primers shall not be transported or stored except in the original shipping container approved by the federal department of transportation.

Truck or rail transportation of small arms ammunition primers shall be in accordance with the federal regulation of the United States department of transportation.

No more than twenty-five thousand small arms ammunition primers shall be transported in a private passenger vehicle: PROVIDED, That this requirement shall not apply to duly licensed dealers.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=70.74.350

 

[Ickaber]

When I was a kid, I used to take primers from dad's reloading stuff and shoot them out of my pellet gun. It was great fun when they'd hit a brick wall and explode.

 

[moparman1911]

Lol

when i was a kid, i used to take primers from dad's reloading stuff and shoot them out of my pellet gun. It was great fun when they'd hit a brick wall and explode. :d

i have a 22 caliber beeman breakbarrel pellet gun and 1,000 manum primers and the 22 caliber pellets fit perfectly in a mcdonalds straw so i would but a tiny bit of epoxy on it then the primer was on the pellet and the straw was filled up and all where uniform.i shot a squirrell looking at me and i was sixteenth off his face and it went down his shoulder through it`s back leg.all burned up and lead everywhere.i shoot everything i kill and eat it so i felt bad about that one but the devastation was sick...

 

[Ickaber]

Sorry Axxe, didn't mean to get us off topic. Ban the ban!