At my LGS this morning. A guy buying his 2 boxes of .22 HV along with me said he had some Remington Sub-sonic that wouldn't cycle his autos. I asked what he wanted for them. Said $3.17 a box of 50, what he paid for them at Wally World. He has 13. He's a regular like me and will pick them up Saturday........ They do great in my Revolvers.....accurate also.