Help choosing a new rifle

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DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · Jun 5, 2012 (Edited)

I have stated in my Intro. I am a novice when it comes to rifles, I have a Savage hog hunter chambered in.308 but am anticipating a trip in the next year or two uo to my cousins in ALASKA I know they grow things very big up there and was hoping to get some advise on Caliber and model of Marlin that would be within the 1000.00 range and bolt action and any tips if you all have hunted in Alaska! Thanks

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DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 5, 2012

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Model X7

The product of 140 years of gunmaking expertise, the Model X7 has single-handedly created a new class of hunting rifles. Offered with today’s most advanced technologies and the Marlin® tradition of building solid, dependable, accurate firearms – at prices hunters can afford.

Long Action

Calibers25-06 Remington (70380)
270 Win. (70381)
30-06 Springfield (70382)Capacity4+1ActionCenterfire bolt action, Pro-Fire® Adjustable Trigger; fluted bolt; two-position safety; red cocking indicatorStockPillar-bedded black synthetic with raised cheek piece and Soft-Tech® recoil padBarrel22” precision button rifled, target crown (6 grooves)Twist Rate 1:10"Sights/ScopeNo sights provided. One-piece scope base includedOverall Length42 1/2"Weight6¼ - 6¾ lbs

Short Action

Calibers7mm-.08
243 Win.
308 Win.Capacity4+1ActionCenterfire bolt action, Pro-Fire® adjustable trigger system; fluted bolt; two-position safety; red cocking indicatorStockPillar-bedded black synthetic with raised cheek piece and Soft-Tech® recoil padBarrel22” precision button rifled, target crown (6 grooves)Twist Rate 7mm-08 - 1:9.5”, 243 Win. - 1:10”, 308 Win. - 1:12”Sights/ScopeNo sights provided. One-piece scope base includedOverall Length42"Weight6¼ lbs
You mean this guy! What is the power and recoil difference between a .308 and a 30-06?

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DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 6, 2012

Please remember I am a novice, So, What this chart says to me is that the 30-06 is a marginally larger shell that carries farther and gets there quicker. Right?

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 6, 2012

Thanks Hunter! I am just getting this whole ballistics thing and it is taking a while!

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jun 7, 2012

hp-hobo said:
The .308 is essentially a shorter, downloaded .30-06. The -06 is requires a long action reciever where the .308 is a short action. Some people say a short action is more accurate because there is less flexibility due to a smaller ejection port and a shorter bolt. I don't think you can go wrong with either. Most experts (I am not an expert) will agree that the .308 is more accurate at long range but the .30-06 retains more power.

That being said, for my money I'd go with a .30-06 for big game at long range and stick with my .308's for human sized targets at somewhat closer range..

Thanks hobo! I am really deciding if the spend is worth it if my. 308 will be enough. What I get from your comments is that having a 30.06 would be useful if that big game shot is farther away and I need that velocity to drop it and the.308 would be great for the stuff that I really need to place that shot in the right area to drop it. I wonder? If I am hunting Elk,Moose, those calibers will drop those animals? I guess you only have to go to the really big calibers if you start going big stuff like Africa? I hate to sound dumb but I am a firm believer better to have to much and not need it than to not have enough and need it!

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jun 7, 2012

Thanks man! I will make sure to do it well informed, I still appreciate your help! Thanks

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jun 7, 2012

Thanks Axxe, I will look into that! I have never shot a lever action but they seem pretty handy to use! All the years they been around must be something to it!

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jun 7, 2012

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Model 1895GS

The venerable big–game–dropping performance of the 45–70 Gov´t. is now available in a compact gun that weighs only 7 lbs. It features an 18½" barrel and a straight-grip stock for fast pointing. For corrosion resistance, there´s our Model 1895GS with all major metal parts machined from stainless steel.

Caliber45–70 Gov´t. Order Online from Gallery of GunsCapacity4–shot tubular magazineActionLever action; side ejection; stainless steel receiver, barrel, lever, trigger guard plate, magazine tube and loading gate. Hammer block safety.StockAmerican black walnut straight-grip stock; cut checkering; ventilated recoil pad; tough Mar-Shield® finish; swivel studs.Barrel18.5" with deep-cut Ballard-type rifling (6 grooves).Twist Rate 1:20" r.h.SightsAdjustable semi-buckhorn folding rear, ramp front sight with brass bead and Wide-Scan™ hood. Solid top receiver tapped for scope mount; offset hammer spur (right or left hand) for scope use.Overall Length37"Weight7 lbs. Owner's ManualDownload Owner's Manual
(Specifications subject to change without notice)

Now that's something I could sink my teeth into!! I'll bet it is a good investment as well. Thanks AXXE! I guess since I pay for my own birthday and Christmas gifts this baby would look quite nice with a bow on the box under the tinsle and lights!! I just got really excited!!!My wife will feel good that I really like her gift for me as well!

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DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jun 8, 2012

Bit of a slow learner here!

But, we be talking guns! Suddenly I get VERY INTERESTED!!

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jun 15, 2012

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Editor Reviewed Marlin 1895GBL

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Description
The Marlin Model 1895GBL is a lever-action hunting rifle chambered in .45-70 Government. The GBL is a smaller version of the Classic Model 1895 with an 18.5" barrel and weighing 7 pounds. And, it has a laminate two-tone stock.
Otherwise it has similar features to the Classic M1895 like Marlin’s Ballard-type rifling in the barrel, which carves six deep and wide grooves in it that, Marlin says, help improve accuracy for high-powered rifles. It’s a slow process, however, almost no stress is put on the metal, so it can better absorb the violent reaction when a primer is charged. Also, it has a tubular magazine that’s non-detachable and runs along the barrel. Rounds are fed through the front of the tube and it chambers like a shotgun—a spring pushes the round down as the bolt slides the next one into place.
Its cartridge, the .45-70 Gov’t,. is a preferred hunting round for shorter range. Since it has such a low velocity yet powerful impact, it’ll kill larger game without destroying a lot of the meat.
Marlin recommends the GBL for hunting deer, larger game and black bear.
Specifications
Action:
Lever
Caliber:
.45-70 Government
Stock:
Two-tone brown laminate
Material/Finish:
Steel/blue
Barrel Length:
18.5"
Weight:
7 pounds
Twist:
1 in 20"
Overall Length:
37"
Sights:
Adjustable semi-buckhorn folding rear sight and ramp front sight
Scope:
Drilled and tapped for scope mounts
Capacity:
6
Website:
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/bigbore/1895GBL.asp

So, I was in a gun shop yesterday and I found this baby sitting there and it had my name written all over it!! I put a down payment on it and my wife is going to get it for me by September for my Birthdat!! My question here is , DID I GET A FAIR PRICE?? The package is, The rifle, a hard case, a sling and 4 boxes of Ammo for $ 685.00 OTD, What do you htink? Is that a fair price??

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DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #23 · Jun 15, 2012

SHOOTER13 said:
Real nice Dutch !! Now wait till ya see how much to feed it...

http://www.luckygunner.com/rifle/45-70-ammo

http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammunition/45-70-govt

http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=35

Whoa Nellie!!! It sure does vary when you start going up in the grains!! It's OK though. This won't be a take to the range once a weeker! Maybe I can get HS1 to do Reloads for me?? Is there any way to do inexpensive range stuff or is the power of these too much to do that with? Obviously my first big bore. I just bought 100 range quality .308 for $64.00...

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #25 · Jun 16, 2012

hp-hobo said:
That really depends on what you call fair. Around here I can do a transfer on a firearm for $25, so add that to the price of ordering online and you could easily save about $100 on the rifle. It also depends on the value of the case, sling and ammo.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/323/products_id/60901

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/60901-55.html

It's a really nice rifle either way.

Thanks hp, I really like to buy from my LGS! These guys are the lifeblood of our communities and as long as I am close, that's good for me! I have the peace of mind I can go there and shoot and talk to the guys and they will take care of any problem or question I have, in ENGLISH!!

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #27 · Jun 22, 2012

Rooster59 said:
DUTCHS,
The price of store bought ammo for the .45-70 is somewhat reasonable considering how much lead and brass you are buying each time. Save the brass and start reloading for it or sell it used to subsidize your store bought habit.

There's always some poor .45-70 addict like myself that is in the market for more trash can sized brass. There's two 1895 Marlins in my cabinet. His (1895CB) and hers (1895G). A trip to the reloading supplier for more 405gr lead slugs requires a strong back.

That's great info. Rooster. I went by today and re did the deal since I already have a Sling and would prefer to by my own case and he is doing the gun OTD for $ 629.oo I think from seeing other prices that is fair. I also looked at the 45/70 Ammo and you are so right! They are trash can sized!! Really, I just can't wait to shoot it but it seems less like I am spending a lot to the wifey to do it over a month! So I guess I can sell the used brass?? I keep all of my .308 and .45 brass as well so it should help my habit. Do you know if you can get more from reloaders or just taking the Brass down to a recycle place?? Yes this is my first rodeo with big bore!! THANKS

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #28 · Jul 8, 2012

I am really excited!! I am picking up the 1895 Gbl tomorrow!! Pictures will be forthcoming!!

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #32 · Jul 9, 2012

Thanks guys!! I'll be posting pictures and a range report soon!!

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #34 · Jul 9, 2012

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No range shooting yet but here is the rifle and the box o TRASH CANS he gave me with it!!! I think I will sleep with it tonite

Well, maybe not, unless of course I do choose to sleep on the couch

Who knows? Maybe!!

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Discussion Starter · #36 · Jul 14, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOS3N7NFIeg&feature=youtu.be
I shot her today!! Wow, I love this rifle!!

DUTCHS

Discussion Starter · #38 · Jul 14, 2012

At the risk of soundind Cliche, IT WAS A BLAST!!! I will be interested in more big bore rifles now!

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