[floydk]

I have an old Marlin 30-30 lever that I need help with. It has a short mag tube, marked Model 93 with initials JM on top tang, and a ser# of 1xxx. What I have learned from other sites is a bit confusing. One site said that the ser# indicates it was made prior to 1883, but another said Model 93 wasn't used until 1894. This is a hand me down used by my grandfather, father and I. Thanks for any help.

floydk

 

[FOUR4D4]

Sorry i had the wrong chart

 

[SHOOTER13]

The Marlin Model 1893 was the first rifle designed for the then new smokeless powder cartridges. It was chambered for the .25-36, .30-30, .32 Special, .32-40, and .38-55. It was offered standard with either a round or octagonal barrel in lengths 24" to 32"...also standard were the buckhorn rear and blade front sights. The receiver, lever, hammer, and buttplate were case colored, with the rest being blued. The stock is varnished walnut.

As far as dates of production, my book tells me only this:

Antique Production ( Pre-1898 )

EXEC....VG......GOOD....FAIR....POOR
2250....1000.....650......450......275

Modern Production ( 1899-1935 )

EXEC.....VG......GOOD.....FAIR....POOR
1750.....850......550.......350......225

SOURCE: The 2011 GUN DIGEST Book of Guns & Prices ( 6th Edition ) Page# 597

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Side note:

The Model 1891 was manufactured between 1881-1897 (approx 18,650)

The Model 1892 was manufactured between 1895-1916 ( approx 45,000)

The Model 1893 had none of the above info included in the book... Hope this helps !!

 

[1894]

According to Brophys book , I'm kinda paraphrasing here but I'll put it in a quote anyway .

the " model 1893 " stamp on the tang wasn't shortened to " model '93 " untill 1905 .
Remained basicly the same till 1922 when the new Marlin Firearms Corporation resumed production of sporting arms after WW1.A few more options were offered starting then. ....
In 1936 the model name was changed to " Model 1936 "

 

[SHOOTER13]

Thanks for the info 1894 !!

 

[axxe55]

another point i found, was that when the 336 came into production they started phasing out the M93.

seems that from what igathered by what little information i could find, the M93, also known as the model 1893 actually came out in 1883 from what i read on another forum. might crosscheck that to be sure. it came out in various blackpowder cartridges and was offered in the 30-30 in the mid to late 1890's. the rifles could be had with many different barrel lengths, round, octogan and a combination of, different magazine tube lengths, different stock shapes and woods, different sight options and other options too. from what i gather they seem to have been very well built nice rifles.

 

[Hyphenated]

FYI..don't confuse the Model 1893 and the Model 93 as being one and the same. I get aggravated when trolling the auction sites looking for treasures and see someone who has a Model 93, but has listed it as an 1893. The Model 93 suffers with some issues because of the turmoil Marlin was experiencing at the time and WWI. Record keeping was poor during that time period and date of manufacture can be tricky. During and after the war Model 93's were known for mix and match parts because of the hardship the war put on inventory and manufacturing in general. It is not uncommon to find a nice Model 93 post war production rifle and not be able to tell if it is original or not because of the incongruity of parts.

 

[floydk]

i need help

Sorry i had the wrong chart

Thank you for the info.

 

[floydk]

Thank you for the info. It seems mine was made 1905 or later.

 

[floydk]

Thank you for the info. I seems mine was made 1905 or later, but it is still in vg condition.

 

[floydk]

Thanks for the info. It seems mine was made 1905 or later. Still works tho

 

[floydk]

Thank you. It seems mine was made after 1905. That would explain the ser # which is stamped under the lever and I think somewhere under the forearm. They changed in 1936, and I also have that model with 1936 on top tang.

 

[1894]

I believe that on the first variation of the model 1936 ( no letter prefix on the serial # ) the only change was a slight shape difference on the stock and the roll stamp on the tang. The internal mechanics are the same as the last model 93 s produced.

 

[floydk]

Thank you, sir. As mine has ser # B8xxx, it was probably made in 1937, which was the last year before model was changed to 336. Still a great gun.

Floyd

 

[1894]

As far as I can tell the 1936 continued on as the model 36 until 1948 when the model 336 was introduced.