Marlin Mod-1893 Short Barreled Rifle----All BATF. legal paperwork

Discussion in 'General Marlin Discussion' started by Jim C, Jan 26, 2018.

  1. Jan 26, 2018 #1
    Jim C

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    I need any help,ALL BATF LEGAL, have a 15 1/4" Marlin,mod1894,caliber 38-40,"SBR/carlbine,with saddle ring and tang sight,For its age and time frame I would rate it at about 8 1/2-9 on scale of 10. Said carbine has been in family since Grandfather acquired and reg.in 1968 in compliance with 1968GCA,Have all paper work.Shoots just fine ...Discussion states only 52 caliber 38-40 made and ONLY ONE AS A 15 1/4"MADE IN 38-40 WITH SADDLE RING.Most all who see all state that majority were made in 44-40 on special run and sent to Chile for their Mounted Police and those returned are ROUGH. EVERYONE seems to agree that none have ever seen and "Think" this is the only one Known ????? Need some thoughts ,ideas and or suggestions .Additional info SN#430591 which is listed in BATF exempt file...Thanks for any help......
     
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  3. Mar 14, 2018 #2
    mm93

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    Something doesn't add up here. The model 1893 was never chambered in any pistol caliber. So either your gun is a Model 1894, or it's not a .38-40? Need to correct the model or caliber before I could give any input.
     
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  5. Mar 14, 2018 #3
    Jim C

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  6. Mar 14, 2018 #4
    Jim C

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    Thanks for seeing my error,You are correct and it is a Model 1894,38-40,with 15 1/4" barrel doubled checked other info and all correct NOW,
     
    Jim C, Mar 14, 2018
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  7. Mar 14, 2018 #5
    mm93

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    There were 45 known 15" barreled baby carbines made in the model 1894. Bill Brophy had all known 15" barreled carbines added to the BATF's list, but since many were made after 1906 when Marlin stopped keeping records, those are not all on the BATF list. Some like yours made much later have been added before Bill had the BATF add known guns in 1980, and that's fortunate yours was accepted. Some have also been added after 1980 as they've come on the market and buyers offered them to BATF for examination and got them added. Most people with legitimate baby carbines have to submit them to a BATF office for examination and if all looks factory, they are individually added to that list.
    But without knowing how many are still out there in other countries, or even in the US, it's impossible to pin down an exact number made in either caliber offered.
    You've got a very rare piece regardless. It's such a limited number that it will always have extra value over any other length 1894 Marlin carbine.
     
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  8. Mar 15, 2018 #6
    Jim C

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  9. Mar 15, 2018 #7
    Jim C

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    Hello and thanks for your prompt response,It is greatly appreciated and as indicated anyone who has viewed this Marlin is fascinated by it.All numbers match,stock & Tang and all factory marks are clear showing it left factory as indicated.You may view photos of this Marlin at www.vintagecollectorarms.com if you would like as he took the time to do numerous quality photos of it.......AS INDICATED IT IS NOT FOR SALE and is a family keep-sake and enjoyed by all who view and handle it.Feel free to view and offer any and all suggestions.I am the private owner and VINTAGE COLLECTOR is Shop/Owner who assisted me seeking info.on this Marlin.
     
    Jim C, Mar 15, 2018
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  10. Mar 15, 2018 #8
    mm93

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    Went to the site you linked, but didn't see your gun anywhere. Not sure where it's pictured, but looked under Marlin Firearms and saw nothing in the way of pictures.
     
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  11. Mar 15, 2018 #9
    Jim C

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    Hello again, I can only assure you that he took the photos as I stood there while he did and saw him do it.I have limited ability with computer and cell phone knowledge but he stated they wer on his site and Linked to the site for viewing.Maybe you have to send a message to him and he opens up for the photos ?????
     
    Jim C, Mar 15, 2018
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  12. Mar 15, 2018 #10
    mm93

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    I saw no pictures of firearms anywhere on his site, and no way to open any images either?
     
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  13. Mar 26, 2018 #11
    Jim C

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  14. Mar 26, 2018 #12
    Jim C

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    Please see the new e-mail I just sent to you ref. photos my Daughter-in Law just took of this Marlin.....Thanks......
     
    Jim C, Mar 26, 2018
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  15. Mar 26, 2018 #13
    Jim C

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    ......mm93 PLEASE re-contact me as I am able to send some good photos to you ref. this SBR Marlin which were just taken by my Daughter-in Law ....They are on my computer and I will forward them to you when you answer......Thanks again.....Jim C.
     
    Jim C, Mar 26, 2018
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