30-30 is excellent choice for ranges within 150 yards. Out here in western wa the woods are so thick in places you can`t hear yourself fart in the rain..Its very popular for deer and some elk hunters still use them...Many will tell you that the modern deer is impervious to everything except the new wizz-bang super magnum..But remember that there was a time that the 30-30 was the new wizz-bang super magnum..Its not just about the excellent caliber. Its a companion that won`t fail you and a shear joy to walk thru the woods with...IMHO the most beautiful rifle ever made