Ordering H4198

Discussion in 'Ammo & Reloading' started by FOUR4D4, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. FOUR4D4

    FOUR4D4 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry but I just have to vent here.I'm trying to order some H4198 and it looks like its the only way to acquire smokeless powder is online.Where you have to pay outrageous shipping,hazmate fees.Now why cant any local gun pushers have powder. Lets see $21 powder,$16 shipping,$26 hazmat fee.I wish I knew this before I bought the equipment .Now do you really save money reloading?:mad:
     
  2. greyhawk50

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    Don't know where you live but we have several gun shops and outdoor stores around here that sell powder.
    Aside from the gun shops, I have bought powder at Gander Mountain. When all else fails, there are always dealers at the gun shows selling powder.
    Try talking with other shooters in your area. Maybe they can point you in the right direction.
     

  3. Hyphenated

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    You can't buy powder on-line unless you and some friends go in together to spread out the cost of the S&H and hazmat fee. It wasn't always like that until good ole Uncle Sam got involved to protect us from ourselves. Just more BS. Must be somebody in town who carries powder. Even if you have to drive 30 minutes each way it's better than paying all the fees.
     
  4. axxe55

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    FOUR, where are you located? do you have a Cabela's or Gander Mountain close by? they sometimes carry smokeless powder. i know what you mean about the costs of powder and primer online. i drive about 35 miles to a gun store to buy my powder and primers. i usually go over there about once a month and usually replace or add powders and primers to my stock when i go there to buy something. none of the places that sell guns in the town i live in sell reloading supplies at all, so i am either forced to drive about 70 miles roundtrip or order online. so i drive the 70 miles to buy the powder and primers, to save the shipping and hazmat fees, and order many of the bullets and cases online from Midway or MidSouth Shooters Supply.
     
  5. FOUR4D4

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    I'm in Florida there is a Gander Mountain about 20 miles away ill check it out thanks for the replies:D
     
  6. JesterGrin_1

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    It all depends on how much you wish to purchase.

    If I am going to try a powder then I will make a drive to get a single pound. But it is darn expensive. But worth it before a bulk purchase.

    But when I am going to purchase 8 pound jugs I go to Powder Valley. You will probably find that even with the Hazmat and Shipping charges it would be cheaper than going to a gun shop. Plus you save gas and time. As gas today is not cheap any longer.

    Also if you need bullets Powder Valley has some darn good prices on them.

    For Brass I go directly to Starline if they have what I need.
     
  7. Shooter

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    You tried calling around right? I'm sorry to hear about the hassle.
     
  8. FOUR4D4

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    I have called Gander Mountain and there very limited on reloading supplies They said there doing away with reloading:mad: I called a Ma & pa Gun shop and left a message.Which I would rather buy from them and help out local business.Yesterday being Sunday they where closed.\.Thanks for the replies
     
  9. Rooster59

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    I'm pretty fortunate with opportunities to buy powder locally. Even if they don't typically stock the flavor I want at my favorite places they will order it. Probably the same with Ma&Pa GS. If they do any business at all usually they have distributors who deliver to them on a regular basis and get what you want. You may have to wait a week or two but that's like planning ahead for groceries in hurricane season.

    My LGS (4 miles away) is higher than other places further away but when I figure in gas in an F250 round trip of 60 miles I can pay a lot more and still save money. And like you said, they are local businesses.

    Don't forget BassPro and Cabelas if they are in your driving range. They both will let you order online for store delivery with their truck shipments. They are both 60+ miles roundtrip for me but we go there at least once a month anyway. They let you bring your dogs in. It's a great excursion for ours on a rainy day. Kill two birds.............
     
  10. FOUR4D4

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    I saw on an open carry forum where they buy from gun shows.
    I was looking for H4198 to reload with,for my .444S but they had a limited supply. I bought IRM4198 for just under $30 out the door,Darn Midway wants about the same just for hazmat charge.They where limited on primers too.I was looking for Remington 9 1/2.I think ill have to drive to Bass Pro on the other side of the state.I wont get out of there for under $300 at least, because I plan on stocking up!!!!!:cool:
     
  11. duster066

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    Heck I live in the liberal Seattle area, and have no problem getting supplies. Just guessing but I think those of us out west have a better time on the gun issues. Probably because we still have lots of free outdoor shooting options therefore there's more shooting going on out here..
     
  12. oldbrass

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    No problem getting powder in western washington, have a Cabellas 20 minutes away in Lacey and a mom & pop gun shop 5 minutes away, like Duster066 said lots of liberals out here, lots of liberals with guns to
     
  13. FOUR4D4

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    COOL:cool:
     
  14. FOUR4D4

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    I did find some IRM 4198 from the ma&pa shop for just under $30 out the door,They are kinda limited on their reloading supplies.The way I see it,thats still less then ording online.On another note,the local gun range carries supplies.
     
  15. Rooster59

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    IMR powders aren't the cheapest on the market. That doesn't sound too bad. I think I paid around $25/pound a couple years ago when I stocked up.
     
  16. Hyphenated

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    Four4D4...The most economical powder for loading the .444 is 2400. I buy it here locally in MO for $18.99 a pound. It works just fine with the 240 and 265gr bullets. If you are shooting mostly heavy bullets like the 300gr Speer, then IMR4198 or RL-7 is a better choice.
     
  17. FOUR4D4

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    Thanks for the replies, there are other resources out there for obtaining supplies with out paying hideous fees. Thank You Again!


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  18. axxe55

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    FOUR, did you end up finding a local supplier for your powder?
     
  19. FOUR4D4

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    I'm looking at all the options seems like i find a recipe for the 444 Marlin and i can find a place that caries the powder but not the primers,brass,and bullets i might have to go to 4 different places to find everything for each components and recipe it SUCKS.There is a gun show coming up soon locally Thanks


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  20. tahoe2

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    Hey Four, no hazmat fees for bullets & brass, check Midwayusa.com or Natchezss.com , as for primers & powder keep shopping. ;)