Been out in the shed, perusing my never ending quest to get all my rifles shooting "spot on". This morning I can truthfully say that for the 444 Marlin. The first 2 shots landed bottom left of the foto. (Old stock/barrel warmers.) The next 3 shots amazed me. Absolutely no powder burns. 90mts, from over the bonnet of the.Landcruiser. Make up your oun opinion, but I'm exceedingly happy.