[SMOGGUY]

Read an article bout the shipping disaster happening at our west coast ports an all the problems associated with it,big cost increase.Long article but worth the time.....



Global Shipping Crisis Far Worse Than Imagined

 

[40nascar]

And I saw a YouTube video where one of the Prepper's is saying that the food shortage is going to get very severe soon. And the Bite Me administration is covering it up, to avoid panic buyers. Not enough people to harvest, and Truckers to haul the produce to market and/or the canneries and dry food processors.
Stock up on your fall canned goods, dry beans and cereals Now!!

 

[SMOGGUY]

Yep have read several articles on my prepper sites,oh well people have been warned so f'em if they won't get with the preparation program being suggested....

 

[Brian S]

I read the article a couple weeks ago then kinda forgot about it. We produce a lot of goods in CA. Are there specific things we can't get locally that must be imported? I know most of our electronics, clothing, etc... come from China because of cheap labor. But if shipping costs skyrocket 10-20X I would think US labor and local shipping would soon become the cheaper alternative.

 

[SMOGGUY]

I read the article a couple weeks ago then kinda forgot about it. We produce a lot of goods in CA. Are there specific things we can't get locally that must be imported? I know most of our electronics, clothing, etc... come from China because of cheap labor. But if shipping costs skyrocket 10-20X I would think US labor and local shipping would soon become the cheaper alternative.

I'm not an expert but I can't think of much we produce here in ca.,we do grow a lot an from what I see its mostly sent/sold to other countrys/states.We shop at diff.grocery stores an most of the produce we see/buy is from mexico,hell even the cat food we get friskies,9 lives,etc.is from china or S.E asia,most dog food also,it may be distributed from some warehouse in the USA but its not made there..Calif.produces little oil,most is brought in,most lumber is imported,as is our power!!!Water is getting very rare but we do have a lotta green lawns an grow lots of lettuce in the desert..Also ya gotta think of the rest of the country an elsewhere,stuff gets nasty an in short supply,real or perceived other states will buy/take what we have along with the feds an we will do the same to them,stuff will go to the highest bidder,regardless who it is....An now with covid our whole economy is upside down except for the stock market....An no I don't worry much about it but it is our reality like it or not..It does pay to be a prepper in many ways,lol...
Remember TP,paper towels ect..ammo,reloading supplies,pork,beef ?LOL it may not be over,Drought is here an long range forecasts more of the same next year for the west.... OK e'nuf ramblin from me...

 

[Brian S]

I did a search just before my last post because I wasn't sure what CA produced myself. I live across the street from an Asian market that usually has produce 1/3-1/2 the price of the big chain stores. I assume a lot of it is imported but I think much of it comes from Mexico or south of the border.

Interesting about the cat food. Never owned one....only dogs. Curious about my dog's food I just looked at the bag of Pedigree and it has a made in USA logo. I don't think we sell much petroleum but I think we export a lot of natural gas.

I know we compete in a global market but producers can't tell us huge price increases are due to shipping costs for what we produce and sell locally. Speaking of pork. Went shopping with Mom yesterday because ribs were $1.69 a pound at Safeway this week. By the time we got there they were sold out.

 

[40nascar]

Farmers markets, or roadside stands are always a good option for produce. Saves on the shipping cost, and your not giving money to a big corporation

 

[SMOGGUY]

Farmers markets, or roadside stands are always a good option for produce. Saves on the shipping cost, and your not giving money to a big corporation

My wife usually buys my produce in a can or frozen,cept for lettuce !!! 💀

 

[SMOGGUY]

Hears a good write up on ca.ag an what its worth,the info seems good except for ONE thing---WATER--- and we are running out,lot of people forgot that ca was mostly all desert,our entire economy is based on cheap abundant WATER !!!! Its starting to catch up with us now an many farmers an ranchers are suffering an closing down....

California farms produce a lot of food – but what and how much might surprise you

California has 25.5 million acres of farm and ranch land.

www.ocregister.com

 

[Brian S]

Well....could not have been more wrong about the natural gas. Turns out we import 95% of it. And I knew we import electricity but didn't realize it was 1/3rd.

Why California Is A Natural Gas State

Loaded with mandates for renewable energy and efficiency, California's energy policies are often cited as an example for other states. The EPA's "Clean Power Plan" mentions California a leading 22 times in this 128-page proposal, with the typical state getting no mentions at all. First enacted...

www.forbes.com

Water? Not a problem for me personally because I use so little. But I think that's going to affect produce prices more than shipping this year. Not many farmers markets near me. I watch for sales and clip coupons. Not a big eater or consumer in general. No mortgage, $8 per month for phone, $50-60 for PGE, no water bill or garbage collection, free internet, no cable, and drive fewer than 2500 miles per year. My expenses are pretty low which is good considering the cost of living here is 185% over the US average.

I noticed Newsom is already targeting Larry Elder for his climate crisis skepticism and wanting more offshore oil drilling. Gonna be in interesting recall election. Keep pushing for more mask and vax mandates Gavin. You'll be out of a job soon enough.

 

[SMOGGUY]

As our hydro plants shut down due to low lake levels an rivers having no flow or not enough flow the libs better hope the wind really kicks up an spins the windmills lol,of curse thats not good for fires that generate a smoke blanket which kills the solar generation an eats up more water,oh well better get some big pipes in an import water too..

 

[SMOGGUY]

As for natural gas,oil ect.calif. has a lot in the ground but its rules an regs prevent it from being used.If they would allow drilling,mining,fracking for all the natural resources we have ca.would be much more diversified an not so reliant on water drinking crops that aren't sustainable,as for power we have to go nuclear soon its the only way left to go we now have the technology to make it work ....You live pretty low key (cheap),we do to but we also spend alot on stuff,toys,junk,I figure ya can't take it with you so enjoy it now while ya can before health,age or something prevents you...Like you we have no mortgage or credit card bills ect.just general living expenses..I know 40 is about in the same boat.......It isn't just calif.that is going down the tube thats got the preppers worried its the nation as a whole,stuff is getting bad......

 

[40nascar]

My wife usually buys my produce in a can or frozen,cept for lettuce !!! 💀

Sorry to hear that she treats you like a pet!!
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